I think that the problem people find in the 6th season is that it didn't answer the questions WE had. And what was addressed was not a big enough bang to feed our egos for having figured it out.
I for one would like to thank the people who were involved with Lost for opening up my eyes to how every story ends. Whether it be, the bad guy sitting in your office telling a messed up story, or the evil force of the galaxy being the heros father. Or the evil is contained in a well behind a waterfall. The good guy must come to terms with what he must do. An illustration of his "Growth". In the end it was a well told tale, by thoughs who took it upon themselves to get the Mass Audience to draw up their own conclusion.
I think that the problem people find in the 6th season is that it didn't answer the questions WE had. And what was addressed was not a big enough bang to feed our egos for having figured it out.
I for one would like to thank the people who were involved with Lost for opening up my eyes to how every story ends. Whether it be, the bad guy sitting in your office telling a messed up story, or the evil force of the galaxy being the heros father. Or the evil is contained in a well behind a waterfall. The good guy must come to terms with what he must do. An illustration of his "Growth". In the end it was a well told tale, by thoughs who took it upon themselves to get the Mass Audience to draw up their own conclusion.
I think that the problem people find in the 6th season is that it didn't answer the questions WE had. And what was addressed was not a big enough bang to feed our egos for having figured it out.
I for one would like to thank the people who were involved with Lost for opening up my eyes to how every story ends. Whether it be, the bad guy sitting in your office telling a messed up story, or the evil force of the galaxy being the heros father. Or the evil is contained in a well behind a waterfall. The good guy must come to terms with what he must do. An illustration of his "Growth". In the end it was a well told tale, by thoughs who took it upon themselves to get the Mass Audience to draw up their own conclusion.
I liked the way you explained this and pretty sure you have to see it more in the perspective, in the end it's about character's growth (mainly Jack in the final season to be honest) more than anything else. However people seem to be disappointed about pretty much the same things regarding Season 6.
Don't count those talking about Polar bears that authors felt the right to mock with Ben's explanation. Not a single thing of that scene impressed me, but I was just amused and happy to see something more about Lost, about some of their characters, even thou was just, as I said, authors laughing at us, or if not us, at the kind of fan asking for MORE explanations. Most of us liked the show anyway, no matter what. In the end we pretty much agree Lost is one of the best shows ever, if not (considering it in its entirety) the best one. My feeling is it's author's fault, not ours. We somehow had the feeling six season could be better, I don't think we would share the same thoughts the same way about any of other season or single character.
My point is we lowered our expectations, not raised.
We accepted everything, even time travel as it was showed with no problem, we were ready for Jacob and so on... It wasn't important our theory was wrong, show was still fantastic.
Let me go a bit off-topic.
We followed authors where they were leading us to, but at one point we had the feeling they didn't know they were going.
I have one example: the sunken island right after the plane scene.
Watching it for the first time could easily feed your curiosity for months. We didn't put it there, authors did, but when we look back at it after the ending, that was just a way to "mislead" us for no reason. And it worked only once, because when you rewatch, that's a point where, somehow, you feel disappointment or something like that.
Disappointment was new to me: never felt, not even once watching Flashes Before your Eyes for the tenth time or when Jin met young Rosseau.
It didn't lead anywhere as it was shown, so why showing sunken island that way? However at that moment it seemed really relevant. I think at one point, for the first time, authors were running on empty. Season six, except of course ep.1 and final episode, was just a filler (well, compared to other series still above par, but for the Lost I knew so far...) for a final parade for tears (that worked!) . Don't get me wrong, Jack was still Jack and I felt his final moments were touching, I am not even trying to argue about that, loved when he told those words about not naming Locke, but almost every other characted in the island seemed out of focus and in the "alt-life" they were person we didn't even know until their..."reconnection".
Even what happened on Island was empty and pointless for the most parts (what's the point to see Claire that way? or Sayid?).
Realizing every character didn't know while we believed (were sure) he (or she) knew is not cool, it was frustrating. At that point I am forced to think: am I supposed to dislike previous seasons to like this one? What's the point of throwing at us the temple and its occupants when at that point didn't make any difference? That part felt a bit rushed too.
Also... Ilana didn't know a thing, Richard didn't know...even Widmore was clueless. I am pretty sure none of us would have bet on Widmore demise like that and not because it was too "original" , but because it was too cheap to even imagine.
I stop here for the moment. I am not even sure someone is going to read this. Sorry for my english too...also, I didn't re-read...sorry.
Give me a reason to delete my post, explaining how it was instead well planned or anything it may help believing things in that direction, I would do it gladly.
Sorry for the off-topic.
Back to topic, I repeat myself. We had no expectations, I mean, we had a lot of theories and ideas of course. My expectation for season 2 or 5 after season 1 and 4 where different from what it was actually shown, but I never felt what I am feeling for season 6: we followed their rules and their parameters, accepted everything as part of the narration. Till that point. Then our only doubt became if it was the Lost as they told us, not as it was as we imagined it. I hope it's clear.
I liked the way you explained this and pretty sure you have to see it more in the perspective, in the end it's about character's growth (mainly Jack in the final season to be honest) more than anything else. However people seem to be disappointed about pretty much the same things about Season 6.
Don't count those talking about Polar bears that authors felt the right to mock with Ben's explanation. Not a single thing of that scene impressed me, but I was just amused and happy to see something more about Lost, about some of their characters, even thou was just, as I said, authors laughing at us, or if not us, at the kind of fan asking for MORE explanations. Most of us liked the show anyway, no matter what. In the end we pretty much agree Lost is one of the best shows ever, if not (considering it in its entirety) the best one. My feeling is it's author's fault, not ours. We somehow had the feeling six season could be better, I don't think we would share the same thoughts the same way about any of other season or single character.
My point is we lowered our expectations, not raised.
We accepted everything, even time travel as it was showed with no problem, we were ready for Jacob and so on... It wasn't important our theory was wrong, show was still fantastic.
Let me go a bit off-topic.
We followed authors where they were leading us to, but at one point we had the feeling they didn't know they were going.
I have one example: the sunken island right after the plane scene.
Watching it for the first time could easily feed your curiosity for months. We didn't put it there, authors did, but when we look back at it after the ending, that was just a way to "mislead" us for no reason. And it worked only once, because when you rewatch, that's a point where, somehow, you feel disappointment or something like that.
Disappointment was new to me: never felt, not even once watching Flashes Before your Eyes for the tenth time or when Jin met young Rosseau.
It didn't lead anywhere as it was shown, so why showing sunken island that way? However at that moment it seemed really relevant. I think at one point, for the first time, authors were running on empty. Season six, except of course ep.1 and final episode, was just a filler (well, compared to other series still above par, but for the Lost I knew so far...) for a final parade for tears (that worked!) . Don't get me wrong, Jack was still Jack and I felt his final moments were touching, I am not even trying to argue about that, loved when he told those words about not naming Locke, but almost every other characted in the island seemed out of focus and in the "alt-life" they were person we didn't even know until their..."reconnection".
Even what happened on Island was empty and pointless for the most parts (what's the point to see Claire that way? or Sayid?).
Realizing every character didn't know while we believed (were sure) he (or she) knew is not cool, it was frustrating. At that point I am forced to think: am I supposed to dislike previous seasons to like this one? What's the point of throwing at us the temple and its occupants when at that point didn't make any difference? That part felt a bit rushed too.
Also... Ilana didn't know a thing, Richard didn't know...even Widmore was clueless. I am pretty sure none of us would have bet on Widmore demise like that and not because it was too "original" , but because it was too cheap to even imagine.
I stop here for the moment. I am not even sure someone is going to read this. Sorry for my english too...also, I didn't re-read...sorry.
Give me a reason to delete my post, explaining how it was instead well planned or anything it may help believing things in that direction, I would do it gladly.
Sorry for the off-topic.
Back to topic, I repeat myself. We had no expectations, I mean, we had a lot of theories and ideas of course. My expectation for season 2 or 5 after season 1 and 4 where different from what it was actually shown, but I never felt what I am feeling for season 6: we followed their rules and their parameters, accepted everything as part of the narration. Till that point. Then our only doubt became if it was the Lost as they told us, not as it was as we imagined it. I hope it's clear.
Sorry for the long post.
hi. cool to see someone is still posting in other seasons.
pr649, you would have been a really good addition to LOST.com if you'd been on the forum when LOST was on. But it's nice to see well-thought out comments even now.
I agree with Desi 100%.
However, pr, I agree about the writers sort of hurrying an explanation to a couple questions through Ben's little scene at the food center. It was "ok" but not very LOST-worthy to just toss us some crumbs like that and in the manner that they did.
As TPTB said, they just didn't feel some things were important enough to explain and really just wanted to leave those things to our imagination.
Actually, maybe it's a compliment to the writers of LOST that so many fans wanted more. LOST kept us on the edge of our seats for 6 yrs!
Lastly, S-6 was convoluted to me, yes, but in the end, I still think they pulled it all together beautifully.
....yet even now...I find my mind wandering to LOST during my daily routines and thinking "wait. did I miss something? What WAS the deal with the sunken Island???" HAHAHAHA
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The 'official' stance from Damon and Carlton was that the sunken island scene was to take the island out of the equation.
As if we were all going to just sit there and think "ok, the island is sunk... we don't have to think about that anymore."
- WTF?!?
Think if other tv shows tried to pull THAT ONE off...
Imagine JR getting shot on Dallas, and then everyone just never mentioned his name again.
Yeah, just forget about what you just saw.
Here's my biggest gripe about it (besides the fact it was second only to 'have to go back' in terms of shockers.)
- the final 4 hours was setting up the MAN IN BLACK SINKING THE ISLAND!!!!
We were ALL waiting to see the connection.
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... but that's not important right now.
Hello all. Good to be back for my bi-yearly visit.
I recently re-watched S6 (skipping most of the flash sideways stuff), and now I can definitively say, no, it was the writers' fault that S6 sucked.
And no, it didn't suck... not totally. But so so SO MANY things were handled sloppily. Ugh. I got to stop myself from re-watching and getting upset again.
And again.
hi. cool to see someone is still posting in other seasons.
pr649, you would have been a really good addition to LOST.com if you'd been on the forum when LOST was on. But it's nice to see well-thought out comments even now.
I agree with Desi 100%.
However, pr, I agree about the writers sort of hurrying an explanation to a couple questions through Ben's little scene at the food center. It was "ok" but not very LOST-worthy to just toss us some crumbs like that and in the manner that they did.
As TPTB said, they just didn't feel some things were important enough to explain and really just wanted to leave those things to our imagination.
Actually, maybe it's a compliment to the writers of LOST that so many fans wanted more. LOST kept us on the edge of our seats for 6 yrs!
Lastly, S-6 was convoluted to me, yes, but in the end, I still think they pulled it all together beautifully.
....yet even now...I find my mind wandering to LOST during my daily routines and thinking "wait. did I miss something? What WAS the deal with the sunken Island???" HAHAHAHA
Just saying hey to you. Hope all is well. And yea I may be the only Lost.com fan who didn't hate the ending.
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