I agree with Chester.
This is what we have been trying to tell everyone.
What Cuse is saying is that "future events" are mutable based upon prior actions as in the example of John and Ben. Same as the example with Desmond.
To me that is coming right out and saying TCC not WHH.
__________________ "We set up this thematic debate between faith and empiricism, basically, in many different iterations of the show, that is what our story has been about"Carlton Cuse (1:00)
TCC and WHH are not mutually exclusive.
If I had eggs for breakfast yesterday and then I go back and have cereal instead, history shows I had cereal (WHH). The egg breakfast was erased and never happened. WHH is NOT WHAH.
Carlton's words were that event are not immutable it is not changeable.
They cant go back and change anything. Alterante universes is simply creating another world to allow for changes. Seems to be contrary to what TPTB are discussing
TCC and WHH are not mutually exclusive.
If I had eggs for breakfast yesterday and then I go back and have cereal instead, history shows I had cereal (WHH). The egg breakfast was erased and never happened. WHH is NOT WHAH.
in all honesty do you think they will resolve this for us? i never thought that until i just found this podcast transcript again. now, based on "this is an issue we will be addressing," i wonder if they will take a stance on this. i have to say i hope so. I would love it if there was a concrete resolution to WHH v TCC. don't even care if i am wrong.
But is that what TPTB are saying? It seems that its not. Going back and changing things is exactly what Carlton said is not going on here.
Watching the show and seeing what happened in the future timeline, past timeline, and current timline seems to indicate that nothin is really being changed.
Faraday speaks of the "people" as the "variables" that can change things but we saw these same exact "variables" do exactly what they were told they would do and were basically powerless to change it..
Example is Faraday himself telling Charlotte as a little kid never to go back to the Island.
What Cuse and/or Lindelof say in podcasts or anywhere else, I take with a grain of salt. They are deliberately evasive and probably disinformationists. The only real information is what we see in the show. This is the main message I take from the Cusalof interviews.
What Cuse and/or Lindelof say in podcasts or anywhere else, I take with a grain of salt. They are deliberately evasive and probably disinformationists. The only real information is what we see in the show. This is the main message I take from the Cusalof interviews.
Oh ok. So you dont think anything they say is canon? But than do you think that the things that they allow to be posted about the show not to be canon too, or just allowing things for people to make up their own minds and misdirect?
But is that what TPTB are saying? It seems that its not. Going back and changing things is exactly what Carlton said is not going on here.
Watching the show and seeing what happened in the future timeline, past timeline, and current timline seems to indicate that nothin is really being changed.
Faraday speaks of the "people" as the "variables" that can change things but we saw these same exact "variables" do exactly what they were told they would do and were basically powerless to change it..
Example is Faraday himself telling Charlotte as a little kid never to go back to the Island.
I think they are showing us the fact that the losties are there at all indicates that they changed something or were responsible for the time-line being what it is. Why would they introduce the time travel element at all if wasn't to show us that they (losties) had in fact played a part in the history of the island.
I think they are showing us the fact that the losties are there at all indicates that they changed something or were responsible for the time-line being what it is. Why would they introduce the time travel element at all if wasn't to show us that they (losties) had in fact played a part in the history of the island.
I see what you are saying. My impression of them introducing the time travelling is to show us why everything happened in the future the way it did.
How ben became an Other, how the Swan Station ended up being somethign differnet than what it was intended to be, how Locke came to be thought of as special and why RA visited him in the 1950s and later on.
It doesnt seem like they went to those timelines and changed events in the future, it looks like they created them.
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